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"Very well. If that is the way the winds are blowing, let no one say I don't also blow"


MAYOR 'DIAMOND' JOE QUIMBY - SIDESHOW BOB ROBERTS




ED NOTE: You don't want to know what has been going on the last few weeks as far as work is concerned. Unless you want to talk about release notes and regression testing. Just be aware that I have one of those jobs where a few thousand people rely on me in one way or another to make sure everything is working or there are serious ramifications to public health. That is all. Now back to your regularly unscheduled ramblings and ravings.



This (the other) morning as my brain crackled into place and I sat in front of the PC, I started my daily routine.
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  • Granola bar



  • Email



  • 'The A's re-signed P Joe Kennedy to a 1 year, $2.4 million contract.'




There was really no surprise at the signing or the amount. The length of the deal was curious. But the fascination with Kennedy is something I honestly do not follow.

The Colorado Rockies signed Kennedy to a hefty contract of $2.2 Million for the 2005 season. There was no chance in hell that the A's would be able to resign him for less. Contracts for players rarely, if ever, decrease before a player reaches his mid-30's. Jermaine Dye is an example of an anomaly. But throw in Dye's injuries and declining performance as an Oakland Athletic (he was a grade B for arbitration I believe) and it's justifiable that he signed a deal for roughly 70% of what he made his last year in Oakland. There are differing averages from different studies for players that sign major league contracts before age 30 that list an increase of between 15% and 25%. The A's controlled the rights to Kennedy for 2005, so signing a one year deal was not a stretch.

The fact that the A's were able to sign Kennedy to a contract for less than an 8.5% increase is a moderate, single eyebrow raise. But, not much more than that. Maybe even a huff if you look at Kennedy's statistics.

Let's make a quick survey of the landscape before we get started. The blather about stats vs. scouts is completely ridiculous as is the idea there is such a thing as MONEYBALL teams or players. Stats are useful in context to compare players and not useful at other times. Some stats were created for the sole purpose of comparing players across generations, rather than current activity. Is Barry Bonds' current decade better than the Ted Williams decade of the 1940's? Is Williams' 1950's decade better than Babe Ruth's 1920's decade?

We really aren't going to be comparing Joe Kennedy to Lefty Grove or even Steve Carlton. We'll be comparing Kennedy to Mike Maroth and Casey Fossum.

Before we get to the stats, let's go over what exactly the A's are doing by signing Kennedy.

Well, not a whole hell of a lot. The A's traded Eric Byrnes at the tail end of his trade value and got two expensive relievers and lost a decent middle infield prospect - Omar Quintanilla. How valuable is Eric Byrnes at this point? He was non-tendered by the Baltimore Orioles, though the Pirates might overpay to pick him up. Or the Red Sox or Diamondbacks.

The A's already signed Jay Witasick to a deal far above his actually worth. The Kennedy signing just made matters stickier. Essentially, the A's traded for two pitchers they resigned for almost $4 Million for the bullpen when Ron Flores, John Rheinecker or Mario Ramos could have filled Kennedy's role and Evan Fahrner, Connor Robertson, Shane Komine or even Shawn Kohn could have filled Witasick's role. Combined, those six pitchers would cost half as much as Kennedy and Witasick. And in the case of Flores, Rheinecker, Robertson, Komine and Fahrner - more effective individually.

It boggles the mind. While others are not surprised by the monetary cost the A's are dolling out, because it is within the parameters of the current market, they are missing what part of the market the A's are getting these players from. The lower tier, the bottom third. League average at best in a very 'average' league.

Joe Kennedy is young, well, younger, so for some odd reason slack is cut for him. The question remains - If he is being paid $2.4 Million dollars as a pitcher, why doesn't he pitch as much as he is WORTH? Kennedy is an expensive version of John Rheinecker. He's been in Tampa Bay and Colorado in a terrible situation stuck in the wang of the United States to the ultimate evil heights for a pitcher in the state that likes to pretend it's not a state on the verge of Nazism. Still, he's pitched poorly. Very poorly. He had one good season, which many can point to as a fluke, an aberration, luck.


 
SEASONTEAMGGSCGSHOIPHRERHRBBSOWLSVHLDBLSVERA
2001TB202000118.212263581634787800--4.44
2002TB303051197.220411499235510981100--4.53
2003TB322211134.2167101911947773121116.13
2004Col272710162.1163686617671179700--3.66
2005Col16160092.012881721244524800--7.04
2005Oak1980061.264333082045450024.45
2005--352400153.21921141022064978130026.01
Total--14412372763.08484604169526747835511134.91


 
SEASONTEAMW%#PITTBF#P/PA#P/IP#P/GSK/9K/BBAVGOBPSLGOPS
2001TB.46718944983.8016.094.75.972.29.269.321.452.771
2002TB.42131088403.7015.8103.64.991.98.269.328.427.755
2003TB.20022546193.6416.892.25.191.64.303.364.491.854
2004Col.56325097053.5615.492.96.491.75.265.342.423.760
2005Col.33315854423.5917.299.15.091.18.334.406.504.907
2005Oak.4449932623.7916.285.66.682.25.267.324.433.758
2005--.38125787043.6616.894.65.721.52.308.376.477.850
Total--.4071234333663.6716.296.05.641.79.282.346.452.797


 
SEASONTEAM2B3BRBISHSFIBBHBWPBKSBCSIRISGDPGBFBG/F
2001TB29359250351760091491530.97
2002TB472103290164012900222472850.87
2003TB356971811131104137122061891.09
2004Col40363961285014500152451621.51
2005Col25268454671310011155971.60
2005Oak1603501211030138581741.09
2005--41210346678161138162361711.38
Total--1921642518341945253492526157410839601.13



In Kennedy's case it was more of a collection of coincidences. Kennedy went down with 'tired arm' in August of 2003. He was on pace to pitch 235 innings for Colorado. In 2004 it was noticeable he lost some of the zip on his average fastball and relied more on his change-up. Loh and behold he was a better pitcher by changing speeds more often. Particularly advantageous in the confines of Coors Field. Kennedy also lost a month to shoulder inflammation. 2005 rolls around, Kennedy gets his 'fastball' back and he falls off the table he set for himself.

Kennedy throws across his body with a lower than 3/4 delivery. He is not injury-prone. He is injured and will continue to be so unless he can go further toward the ground ala Chad Bradford or learn how to pitch with balance. His fastball is a two-seam fastball and average at best. Because of his motion he can get it inside to left-handers. But right-handers exploit the fastball. His slider is a 'hey, look what I can do' pitch that he throws less than 5% of the time. His 12-6 curveball is not Zito like or even Mulder like and he has the same problem with it as Zito - when it works, great...those in the bleachers should watch out when it doesn't. His change-up is his best pitch with a good tail at the end. But, it is also helped by his ill-advised throwing motion and he does not have a lot of confidence in it.

In short, Kennedy is one of those guys on the pitcher's mound who is more thrower than pitcher. There is an art and a deliberate act of pitching. Kennedy has not figured it out and for some reason the A's think Curt Young can piece him together, or maybe Rick Peterson can if they A's trade him to the Mets.

Soon, Baseball Prospectus will deliver Nate Silver's PECTOA numbers for 2006. If you haven't seen the wonders of the crystal spreadsheet, you are not working hard enough at being a fan of ingenuity. Many people on the 'fringe' of baseball's inner sanctum have their own calculations or rough estimates for hitter and pitcher projections (one never uses the word predictions in baseball if they can get around it with 'projections'). There are several annuals that produce these numbers, but Silver has been the most accurate to date. Taking some liberty with my member account at Baseball Prospectus, here's what Kennedy has done and what he projects for the next several years.


YearVORP
200514.3
200611.0
200710.4
200810.1
20098.3

Year75%50%25%Weighted Mean
20054.104.825.41
4.77
20064.004.795.67
4.67
20073.714.485.71
4.53
20083.874.295.19
4.44
20093.954.455.29
4.44

YearAttrition RateDrop RateBreakout
2005
9.3%
0.0%
11.4%
2006
26.0%
6.4%
10.7%
2007
36.6%
10.7%
12.3%
2008
39.3%
19.6%
6.8%
2009
50.9%
25.1%
8.3%




You can look at the numbers and figure it out without making too much of what it all means. Pretty pictures and graphs make it real easy. But, it looks like the A's just paid for another Terrence Long, Jermaine Dye or better - another Ricardo Rincon. At least it's only for one year. Maybe less if the A's can find a buyer for Kennedy.

Rincon, by the way, was one of the top five luckiest relievers in baseball in 2005. Hard to imagine since according to the chorus of boos that welcomed his plod to the mound and cherished his exits at the Trojan Horse/Worm Oakland Coliseum.

PLAYERTEAMBRP
Trevor MillerTBA15.4
Ricardo RinconOAK14.6
Neal CottsCHA14.2
J.C. RomeroMIN13.6
Scott SchoeneweisTOR12.7


Back to Kennedy.

Kennedy looks like a protracted sign and trade deal. Even as teams talked about the availability of Barry Zito in the past weeks, Beane had a much cheaper left-handed starter to throw into the mix to salvage any possible deal.

Cheaper, maybe.

Better, no.

And definitely not worth the money. But, teams like Los Angeles, Seattle, Texas, the NY Mets, the Yankees, the Cubs, the Orioles, the Blue Jays, the Astros...can afford the throw money around on league average pitchers.

EXAMPLE: The Cubs, Orioles and A's have been rumored to be holding talks involving Miguel Tejada to the Cubs, Mark Prior to the A's and Barry Zito to the Orioles, prospects and cash also in the mix. Now, if the central part of the deal starts to erode as talks progress, Beane can pull Kennedy out of his pocket and try to salvage something of the time spent on the talks and perhaps a lesser deal transpires between the three teams or as a straight up swap between two of the clubs.

The hard part is selling a team on Kennedy.

Why am I harping on this? Because there ARE better, much cheaper guys out there. This is an ongoing issue with the A's organization. They have gotten lazy and are overspending on mediocrity. No, not league average, mediocre.

MIKE MAROTH: 2005 Salary $405,000


SEASONTEAMGGSCGSHOIPHRERHRBBSOWLERA
2002Det212100129.21366864736586104.48
2003Det333310193.12311311233450879215.73
2004Det333321217.0244112104255910811134.31
2005Det343400209.0235123110305111514144.74
Total--12112131748.08464344019619636840584.83

CASEY FOSSUM: 2005 Salary $950,000


SEASONTEAMGGSCGSHOIPHRERHRBBSOWLSVHLDBLSVERA
2001Bos1370044.1442624420263200--4.87
2002Bos431200107.211356411230101541303.46
2003Bos19140079.082554893463651005.47
2004Ari272700142.0171111105316311741500--6.66
2005TB362500163.21701008921601288120014.92
Total--1388500535.25803483077720743526382315.17

WHy he A's traded for Kennedy is still up for discussion. The real reason the A's signed Kennedy is they held his rights and they have very little to nothing in the minor league system ready to emerge as a starting pitcher in the next 18 months.

Now, that's what the A's think. For the most part, that is very true, however, the A's have a very bad habit of overlooking minor league players in their own organization in favor of cherry-picking players from other organizations.

With success - Mark Ellis, Terrence Long (2000 - 2001), Chad Bradford, Frank Menechino, Olmedo Saenz, Marco Scutaro, Cory Lidle, Justin Duchsherer, Aaron Harang.

Without much success - Terrence Long, (2002 - 2003), Carlos Pena, Erik Hiljus, Charles Thomas, Mark Johnson.

Kennedy is the A's insurance policy for spot-starter and left-handed relief. Of course, the A's have more insurance policies in their organization than Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom. Insurance policies are often much like gambling and only useful if there is a relative need for them. Buying multiple insuance policies doesn't make sense.

The A's have a very, very small front office. They have just enough personnel to get the job done. Other organizations have executives, vice-presidents of batting practice balls, chief executive officer of the ball boys. Other organizations have a large swath of people to make connections with players in the off-season. Make phone calls just as they settle in after a long season. Call the rookies and the players completing their first full year in professional baseball and encourage them on their success and relieve the burden of their apparent failures. Touch base with some of the players approaching their sixth year in the organization and some potentially available in the Rule 5 draft. During the Holidays, phone calls and cards hoping for the best in the coming year, etc.

The A's sometimes don't have the time or resources to connect with their players at all. Some might turn up in Winter Ball without the A's knowing until they receive a fax from their Latin team. It's discouraging to be in a situation where you feel you are neglected and unwanted, yet there are 10-15 other teams that would gladly pluck you for their 25 Man roster - or at least give you an honest assessment of your skills and abilities and what the organization expects from you.

The flip side is that other organizations employ several people to blow various amounts of smoke up a player's ass, often the same smoke. While the A's have very, very few. Count on one hand, most likely the number of people the A's have contact players in the off-season if they are not on the 25 Man Roster. It's one thing to have a dozen people tell 12 players the same thing, "we are really hoping you make an impact in Spring Training and can make the 25/40 Man Roster. But if you don't, we want to keep you as close as possible as our first option, our insurance policy, if someone who plays your position gets hurt or traded. Now, work hard in the weight room and work on these things in Winter Ball..."

It's another for a single A's executive to make calls to 12 different middle infielders and essentially tell them, "you're our insurance policy, and we control your rights, so stick it out and maybe something will happen. If not, we don't care, you can leave after your sixth year in the minors. Happy Holidays."

Or worse, "I know you are frustrated, we are, too. We really need your bat/arm and just don't have any room. It's too expensive to just cut a major league player, and we are a small-budget team. Why, we may not even have enough money to pay the grounds crew. All the parking attendants are cold and hungry and out of work. Even Tiny Tim is losing hope...But, you're our insurance policy. If something should happen, you'll get the first phone call. If we can still afford to pay the phone bills. And our cable package, we only get 8 HBO channels."

Comments:

Took long enough.

But worth it.

I think there is something to investigate on how the A's are spending their money.

Good post, Zach.

 

Good shit Zach. Good to see you discovered your blog . I also find it mildly frustrating the A's seem to not give their minor leaguers much of a chance in Oakland. The only reason DJ received a chance was because of injury-and he did OK. But, what the hell, maybe Kennedy is worth the 2.5 mil. I seriously doubt it though.

 

Why would the A's consider trading Zito for Prior?

 

Here's a better question. Does Zach want to weight in on the pissing contest between Marshall vs Carroll re: Prior's apparent mechanical flaws and potential injury filled future?

 

Prior's problems have to be mechanical in nature. I am absolutely unqualified here, but the guy has been hurt year after year, but always comes back. Logically, that would suggest not so much the body breaking down, but the body objecting to a particular abuse.

Marshall certainly should know what he is talking about. Not only the years of professional ball, but the MD in the precise subject....he doesn't sound much like a guy who's guessing.

 

last year prior's injury was due to getting hit in the elbow by a line drive.

in 2003, it was running over marcus giles on the basepaths.

2004's achilles/elbow problems may well have been due to bad mechanics, but you can hardly say they've lead to his injuries year after year.

 

I suppose he could be cursed; the Cubbies are, so why not their star pitcher? Question really is, would the curse follow him?

 

Thank you for the most reasonable explanation of the Kennedy signing I have seen thus far. I had considered long term trade bait, but thought it would be predicated on a big money team having an early season pitching meltdown ( a la 05 Yankees). Do you have a victim in mind?

 

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