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When I go shopping for starting pitchers it's not unlike looking for a good vegetable. Sure, most will do, but if you really want something that is of the best quality and not simply whatever the produce clerks at Safeway wheel out - you need to do some research.


My criteria go toward base runners allowed, hits per innings pitched, strike out to walk ratio, groundball to flyball ratio and pitches per inning pitched. Pretty much in that order. The higher level view is the cost. As an A's fan, you look at a grouping of pitchers that is realistic to even consider. Of course, if were talking about a pitcher like Justin Verlander - you might look at the statistics first, then justify the cost. Either by trade or by free agent signing.


Why am I bothering to look for starters when the A's are 'set' in their rotation? Loaiza, Haren, Harden, Blanton and the other guy. Harden can not be anything other than a question mark and 'the other guy' isn't exactly something you can bank on until the middle of March. Better to sign a guy and bulk up the bullpen.


An inning eater would be great. A frontline starter who can keep the number of runs low and pitch deep would help the A's. With Barry Zito you got the latter. An older pitcher may not be able to go as deep and there's the risk of dramatic drop-off.


When it comes to relievers my criteria varies a bit more; You're looking for a good piece of fruit. Often you don't know if you've really got it until you bite into it. base runners allowed, groundball to flyball ratio, strike out to walk ratio. There's another criteria and that is keeping runners close and the pickoff move. Very hard to quantify, though. I don't care, so much, if a pitcher in a short relief situation gives up a hit, a groundball hit. With runners on base, groundballs mean double plays.


Cost is also a big deal with relievers. Paying too much for a reliever puts a lot of pressure on a manager to use a pitcher. We like to think this isn't true, but we have seen A's pitchers in the past languish in the bullpen. Ron Flores is a good example. Justin Duchscherer had better numbers than Rich Harden as a starter in Sacramento. But it was Harden who was called up first. Duchscherer last found himself in the bullpen and has been, arguably, the best pitcher the A's have had the last three seasons.


Here's my list...




Player
Age
2006 Salary
Player
Age
2006 Salary
Tony Armas
28
$2,100,000
No. There's the injury risk and there are a few options better. Even if the A's could afford to take on reclamation projects. Doug Brocail
39
$1,000,000
Chair.
Miguel Batista
35
$4,750,000
Too expensive and a gasoline candidate. Mike DeJean
36
$1,150,000
No.
Bruce Chen
29
$3,800,000
I always thought Chen would turn the corner. And he did at some point. But it was down the wrong path. Octavio Dotel
33
$2,000,000
Tee hee. Beane made the wrong trade; Carlos Beltran should have been an Oakland Athletic.
Shawn Estes
33
$1,100,000
Estes is coming off an injury. Dunno. The A's aren't desperate. Alan Embree
36
$850,000
Eh. Rumor has it that Embree might be signed.
Tom Glavine
40
$10,500,000
Yes. Call me a fan of the change-up, but I think with Tom Glavine and Greg Maduxx in the rotation for a combined $15,000,000 you get 400 innings of better than league average baseball. Haren, Loaiza, Glavine, Maduxx, Blanton. Works for me. Yah, you wake me when Rich Harden can throw 200 innings and not miss a start. Keith Foulke
34
$7,750,000
If Foulke was healthy and took an 70-80% pay cut, this would be a lock.
Rick Helling
35
$850,000
Helling wouldn't be a bad pick up. Good trade bait. Ryan Franklin
33
$2,600,000
No.
Jason Johnson
33
$3,500,000
Nope. Aaron Fultz
33
$1,200,000
No.
Jason Marquis
28
$5,150,000
Nope. Too many base runners, not enough groundballs. Eric Gagne
30
$10,000,000
See; Foulke, Keith.
Brian Moehler
34
$1,500,000
Nope. Eddie Guardado
36
$6,250,000
Hell no. Nice nickname. Not a good pitcher.
Mark Mulder
29
$7,750,000
Hell no. Not even worth the risk. A's fans who suggest the A's should sign Mulder are the same people who don't understand what Billy Beane accomplished when he traded Mulder in the first place. LaTroy Hawkins
33
$4,400,000
No.
Tomo Ohka
30
$4,530,000
Hmmm. I'm on the fence about Ohka. Matt Herges
36
$600,000
Cheap.
Ramon Ortiz
33
$2,500,000
No. Dustin Hermanson
33
$3,150,000
No. Old starter in the bullpen. Effective but too expensive.
Russ Ortiz
32
$7,875,000
No. Roberto Hernandez
42
$2,750,000
Interesting.
Chan Ho Park
33
$15,333,679
Hell no. Ray King
32
$2,500,000
Hell no. Lefthanders are available elsewhere.
Brad Radke
34
$9,000,000
Retired. Steve Kline
34
$3,000,000
Too expensive. Not effective, a bit of a redass, too.
Mark Redman
32
$4,500,000
Interesting. But hell no. Dan Kolb
31
$2,000,000
Groundball specialist. Gamble not worth taking at that price range.
Aaron Sele
36
? ? ?
No. Tom Martin
36
? ? ?
No.
John Thomson
33
$4,750,000
No. Brian Meadows
31
$600,000
Cheap. Effective.
Steve Trachsel
36
$2,500,000
Maybe. If they needed a long reliever. But they don't. Kent Mercker
38
$1,550,000
Yes. If you wanted a solid lefty in the bullpen, yes, pretty please sign Merker. He is no longer a starter, but the A's could corner the market on lefties and the market would swing to them.
David Wells
43
$4,075,000
No. Pitching in PETCO covered how bad Wells has fallen. Jose Mesa
40
$2,000,000
Nah.
Kip Wells
29
$4,150,000
No. Guillermo Mota
33
$3,000,000
No. Not as good as the TV talking heads think.
Paul Wilson
33
$3,750,000
No. Jeff Nelson
40
? ? ?
No.
Jamey Wright
31
$500,000
Cheap. Real cheap. Darren Oliver
36
? ? ?
Yes. Someone screwed up his career by making him a starter and got him away from throwing his sinker. This guy could be a 2-1 groundball pitcher with the right organization backing his best pitch.
Troy Percival
37
$6,000,000
Nope.
Arthur Rhodes
37
$3,700,000
Tee hee.
David Riske
30
$1,800,000
Yes. A good investment.
J.C. Romero
30
$2,200,000
No.
Scott Schoeneweis
33
$2,750,000
No.
Rudy Seanez
38
$1,900,000
No.
Russ Springer
38
$750,000
Yes. A good investment.
Mike Stanton
39
$1,000,000
No.
Tanyon Sturtze
36
$1,500,000
No. Remember when he was a prospect?
Ron Villone
36
$2,250,000
No.
Jamie Walker
35
$1,250,000
No.
David Weathers
37
$1,500,000
Maybe.
Rick White
37
$600,000
Cheap.

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